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Andrew Rasiej on the Difference Between Civic Tech, Govtech & Urban Tech

February 27, 2018
Andrew Rasiej, Founder & CEO, Civic Hall, LAVCA, Venture Investors

Andrew Rasiej, Founder & CEO, Civic Hall on the difference between Civic Tech, Govtech & Urban Tech during the LAVCA Venture Investors Meeting in NYC in 2017.

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Andrew Rasiej spoke at LAVCA’s 2017 Venture Investors Annual Meeting about the government’s role in fostering innovation. Andrew Rasiej runs Civic Hall, a collaborative workspace where people from government, politics, the nonprofit sector, the corporate sector, the philanthropic sector, academia and journalism, come together to work on solving hard problems, like issues of sustainability, economic sustainability, regulation, new monopolies, and the speed at which technology is moving. Andrew also organizes the Personal Democracy Forum, the largest global gathering at the intersection of tech politics and government. He also chairs the New York Tech Alliance, which has 60,000 members and has a non-profit called Now Start Work, which is working on bringing tech into public schools.

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Andrew Rasiej: One last thing, which is really important: The technology is moving really fast, and so we have to be careful. The example I will give you is that there are two million truck drivers in the United States right now, and let’s just guess that we’ll have automated trucks on the highways in the next 10 years. What are we going to do with those two million truck drivers? They’re not all going to learn how to code and become entrepreneurs.

We have a structural problem that’s happening where the government needs to play a role. And so when we talk about these technologies, I think it’s important to recognize the difference between civic tech, govtech, and smart city, or urban tech.

There’s overlap, but there are major differences, and I’ll give them to you right now:

Civic tech is any technology that’s for the public good, full stop.

Govtech is any technology that the government uses to deliver the services to the public, but may not be for the public good depending upon who’s in power. So the police department is using Twitter to look at the profiles of African-Americans that they pull over to the side of the road to see if they tweeted about Black Lives Matter. I wouldn’t call that civic tech. Or if Palantir is building a database to identify where 11 million undocumented people are hiding in the United States from the customs folks, I wouldn’t call that civic tech.

Urban tech is any technology that relates to how cities function from an efficiency perspective transportation, how urban environments work. As I said, there’s a lot of overlap, but there are a lot of issues particularly with who’s collecting the data, who’s controlling the data, and who’s able to leverage the data for some sort of economic benefit. And there’s a role for government in all of that.

Andrew Rasiej: Una última cosa, que es realmente importante: la tecnología se está moviendo muy rápido, por lo que debemos tener cuidado. El ejemplo que le daré es que hay dos millones de camioneros en los Estados Unidos en este momento, y supongamos que tendremos camiones automatizados en las carreteras en los próximos 10 años. ¿Qué vamos a hacer con esos dos millones de camioneros? No todos van a aprender cómo codificar y convertirse en empresarios.
Tenemos un problema estructural que está sucediendo donde el gobierno necesita jugar un papel. Entonces, cuando hablamos de estas tecnologías, creo que es importante reconocer la diferencia entre la tecnología cívica, el gobierno y la ciudad inteligente o la tecnología urbana.

Hay una superposición, pero hay diferencias importantes, y te las daré ahora mismo:
La tecnología cívica es cualquier tecnología que sea para el bien público, punto final.

Govtech es cualquier tecnología que el gobierno utiliza para prestar los servicios al público, pero puede que no sea para el bien público en función de quién está en el poder. Entonces, el departamento de policía está usando Twitter para mirar los perfiles de los afroamericanos que se detienen a un lado de la carretera para ver si tuiteaban sobre Black Lives Matter. Yo no llamaría tecnología cívica. O si Palantir está construyendo una base de datos para identificar dónde se esconden 11 millones de personas indocumentadas en los Estados Unidos de la gente de la aduana, no llamaría a esa tecnología cívica.

La tecnología urbana es cualquier tecnología que se relaciona con cómo funcionan las ciudades desde una perspectiva de eficiencia de transporte, cómo funcionan los entornos urbanos. Como dije, hay mucha superposición, pero hay muchos problemas, particularmente con quién recopila los datos, quién controla los datos y quién puede aprovechar los datos para obtener algún tipo de beneficio económico. Y hay un papel para el gobierno en todo eso.

Andrew Rasiej: Uma última coisa, que é realmente importante: a tecnologia está se movendo muito rápido e, portanto, temos que ter cuidado. O exemplo que vou lhe dar é que existem dois milhões de motoristas de caminhão nos Estados Unidos agora, e vamos adivinhar que teremos caminhões automatizados nas rodovias nos próximos 10 anos. O que vamos fazer com esses dois milhões de motoristas de caminhão? Não todos aprenderão a se codificar e se tornarem empresários.
Temos um problema estrutural que está acontecendo onde o governo precisa desempenhar um papel. E então, quando falamos sobre essas tecnologias, penso que é importante reconhecer a diferença entre tecnologia cívica, govtech e cidade inteligente, ou tecnologia urbana.

Há uma sobreposição, mas há grandes diferenças, e eu as entregarei agora mesmo:
Tecnologia cívica é qualquer tecnologia que seja para o bem público, parada completa.

Govtech é qualquer tecnologia que o governo usa para entregar os serviços ao público, mas pode não ser para o bem público dependendo de quem está no poder. Então, o departamento de polícia está usando o Twitter para analisar os perfis de afro-americanos que eles puxam para o lado da estrada para ver se eles tweeteram sobre Black Lives Matter. Eu não chamaria essa tecnologia cívica. Ou se a Palantir está construindo um banco de dados para identificar onde 11 milhões de pessoas indocumentadas estão escondidas nos Estados Unidos da gente da alfândega, eu não chamaria essa tecnologia cívica.

Tecnologia urbana é qualquer tecnologia que se relaciona com a forma como as cidades funcionam de uma perspectiva de eficiência de transporte, como funcionam os ambientes urbanos. Como eu disse, há muita sobreposição, mas há muitos problemas, particularmente com quem está coletando dados, quem controla os dados e quem é capaz de aproveitar os dados para obter algum tipo de benefício econômico. E há um papel para o governo em tudo isso.

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